The woman he lived with was first in Evansdale, the moves out to Readlyn. Factual evidence to find out who did this and helping this family find some kind of peace. She was a student at Poyner Elementary School and was a bubbly little person, with the best smile, who loved what life had to give and all it had to offer. He was 27, she was 2. He's wagon of mail was found a block away from his house. Elizabeth passed away on Friday, July 13, 2012. Elizabeth enjoyed dressing up and getting her nails and hair done. Where did it end up where you said it smelled? A lot of similarities. Other is Higher Confidence 2848 270th St Readlyn, IA 50668 Its happended before one guy fessed up after about 40 years turned himself in. I wonder if its the same guy. Two friends out together enjoying nature on a nice day. XXXXX told me about his car being crushed (I found he had a white PU at the time, maybe his, maybe the persons he lived with, he/they may have others, but this was at least one of them.) I am sad, so sad for these families. I agree that the one set of parents owned money to a drug dealer and they werent paying so maybe they took the one and they couldnt leave a witness so they took her to. On Monday afternoon, December 10, 2012, the Iowa State Medical Examiners Office confirmed the bodies found on Wednesday were those of Lyric Cook and Elizabeth Collins. And the crimes he committed there and in Dayton seem to be somewhat similar. The bodies weren't buried but were moved to and found in a remote area, so it can't be said whether or not they were meant to be discovered. Iowa, 5 months after young cousins vanished: Lyric Cook-Morrissey, Elizabeth Collins may be found, authorities say, The Des Moines Register, Dec. 5, 2012, Anonymous donor adds $100K to reward for two missing Iowa girls, The Des Moines Register, Nov. 30, 2012, Iowa Department of Public Safety Missing Person Information Clearinghouse, Mother of missing girl faces new court date, KCCI Channel 8 Des Moines, Nov. 12, 2012, Dads message for daughter: I will never stop looking, KCCI Channel 8 Des Moines, Oct. 19, 2012, What do jurors know about missing girls dad?, KCCI Channel 8 Des Moines, Sept. 26, 2012, Innocence Abducted: From Johnny Gosch to Evansdale Cousins, 30 Years Have Brought Many Changes to Missing Children Investigations, Johnston Patch, Sept. 7, 2012, Attempted Abduction Reports in Ames Jump After Evansdale Girls Go Missing, The Ames Patch, Sept. 5, 2012. Someone out there knows somethingyou can bet on it. Moreover, if committed by someone close to Elizabeth and Lyric, their bodies would most likely have been left at the lake, or they would have been moved to a closer, more public area. These murders were a direct result of the parents bad habits. Did get em. Some do appear more significant than others, but also have reasonable explanations that dont point to them being linked. In her short years Lyric came to know the Lord Jesus Christ and the importance of salvation through Jesus for the people of the world. He was 71, so he had been in prison for approximately 44 years. There are the reverse dates: 7-13-12 / 2-13-17. They know exactly where the focus would be and that is excatly what happened, the child molester in a white van theory. Elizabeth Collins parents joined Sorenson and parents of other missing and murdered children at the Capitol for a news conference where the senator outlined five pieces of legislation he planned to introduce during the current session. Get a life. Dug here (Doug?). Does not seem like it. Both occurred in broad daylight. Now Ive recently heard of a guy in Webster Co. that was trying to snatch children. I think Klunder is probably the perpetrator of this crime. I know you have a wealth of information regarding the case, so I will not be redundant. Thoes girls deserve it. You deserved better, so did your little ones. You sent December 7, 2020 Supplemental Motion for Discovery and Request for Rule 404 and 405 Evidence. May these little girls rest in peace, I remember this very sad just wish they found out who did it And may those girls rest in peace :(, But there were hopes that this case could have been solved if the man responsible for that kidnapping was also responsible for this kidnapping. Lyric passed away on Friday, July 13, 2012. Mike, he sounds like a good candidate. So one of them says hey ur mom/dads in trouble come w us & they did. And found by hunters, so obviously people hunt there. But Lyric and Elizabeth were found at Bremer County's Seven Bridges Wildlife Park. Likely he did this to deflect suspicion on the other one involved. anything is possible but it feels like a lot of coincidences. They contacted law enforcement officials at 12:45 p.m. On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Chief Deputy Rick Abben with the Black Hawk County Sheriffs Office held a press conference to announce officials were confident the bodies were those of Lyric and Elizabeth. WTH? ( Libby/ Elizabeth) One girl in each set was being raised by grandparents. There were two sets of footprints from Huntbachs rental to their house next door. She enjoyed going on vacations and had traveled to many places. he hadnt been on the job for more then a couple weeks, recently retiring from the jail as a deputy. They simply got in too deep with professional drug dealers and as i said before, very common practice to have the children kidnapped for ransom or as in this case, murdered. This is regarding the disappearance of Lyric and Elizabeth, the victims of a double homicide in Evansdale, Iowa. theres an awful lot of them though. Why was he fired. Hundreds of cyclists rode the nearly 100-mile route in two-by-two formation showing solidarity for those theyve lost, KWWL.com reported on May 16, 2014. All this week KCRG is airing stories about Elizabeth and Lyrics abductions and murders. I was inside the courtroom on Friday. This suspicion was brought to light shortly after the girls disappearance. What kind of closer? Unfortunately, nothing turned up as to what could have happened to Elizabeth and Lyric. Then theres the reward. Yeahwho, Mr. Robert Lindsay who apparently knows who the killer is. The parents may not know the specific killer but they DO know why thoes beautiful little girls lives we taken ! On the other hand, there might be more than one perpetrator. NEW: attorneys for Richard Allen the man charged with the Delphi murders of Abby Williams and Libby German file a new motion. I know Oelwein is 30+ miles away but you drive near that area when you go towards Oelwein. Brett And Chelsee Sachs Of Sachs Law APC Share How They Are Working With Clients To Pay Things, 5 Terrifying Unsolved Cases of the Missing and Murdered, 70-Year-Old Milwaukee Woman Scammed Out of $38.5K by Fake FBI Agent Impersonator, William Penn: A Pioneer of Criminal Justice, One Vote Away: Conservatives and the Myth of a Liberal Supreme Court. The Gazette said other cases against Dan Morrissey charge him with possessing, dealing and making methamphetamine, and a range of other drug charges that could lock him up for decades if convicted. There refers to a place. I live about 20 miles from the lake where the girls were abducted. Do it for those girls. Which only leaves strangulation and stabbing; strangulation would have been known due to specific damage/breaking on a particular bone in the necks. There is a clear victims similarity. It is possible to find over 20 coincidences. So surely law enforcement has asked for cell phone pings at the Lake when the girls were there and then tracked those pings to actual owners of those cell phones. But in my experience, families may share some behaviors, learned or otherwise. Lyric passed away on Friday, July 13, 2012. . The news that the bodies had been found hit them hard. What day were the girls found? They would also target drop off spots for their bodies where know abductions had taken place so the public would automatically think it was a child molester/killer. I always pull up google maps when reviewing these cases. Dates seen March 2005. Notoriety. Thats why i think the drug dealers have something to do with it. I remember reading that they had a dedicated team to heavily investigate Michael Klunder in relation to this case. Nothing adds up about thier stories and the behavior or the police department was either shady as a whole and Kent figured it out. This creep has an old kidnappings charge and a charge with LASCIVIOUS ACTS W/CHILD-INFLICT PAIN OR DISCOMFORT (FELD) and KIDNAPPING 1ST DEGREE 1978 (FELA). They said the car/truck stunk when they got it. Both sets of girls were found 50 ft from a slow moving stream. Chillingly, the dates both sets of girls vanished, 7-13-12 and 2-13-17, are anagrams of each other. So we take that into consideration as well and we've investigated that, we've been in contact with Iowa and they've been in contact with us and we've discussed that but nothing else seems to be popping up around the nation that is similar to this but doesn't mean he's gonna kill everybody the same way every time. My thoughts are with all of you. However, investigators would have to be able to place him the area. Didnt you say Gilbert in Evansdale? Director Talks About Evansdale Cousins Murder Investigation, by Kelly Maricle, WHOTV.com, Airdate: January 29, 2015, EVANSDALE MURDERS: Police Rule Out Klunder, by Sam Hoyle, WHOTV.com, Airdate May 14, 2014, ONE YEAR: Parents Happy With Investigation, by Staff, WHOTV.com, Airdate July 12, 2013. For example, a rival meth dealer, or maybe an angry supplier, would leave clues, or a type of message that confirmed his or her involvement in the crime. They were near Meyers Lake, which is where locals fished, swam, and boated. At least one girl in both sets had a phone and was online. This happened in Des Moines but just hang in there. Seven Bridges is basically just a road that loops around the forrest nexts to a river. Its not really a destination or a place anyone knows about except for locals. There are additional similarities to the cases too, such as both girls were adolescent or pre-adolescent white females, out alone in remote locations, and were killed by a non-family member. Better believe it .you are a nasty person and have no class someday our paths will cross and I cant wait you are a troll.drew Collins father of Elizabeth June Marie. Mushroom searchers typically wander the area. Cant believe you said that !? Has anyone looked into the Oelwein mayor? He called Libby's cellphone, but there was no answer. Jody, I think the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation needs to look at Ricki C. Hess, 52, as of 2017. Locals in a bar/club who knew the girls and their families talked about this and never did anything??????? Lyric and Elizabeth were found so much later( 5 months), I doubt LE could identify COD. The responsible person might be someone that their families were acquainted with, but it could have been a stranger (doesnt happen as often, but it does happen). A short while later, they were spotted about a mile-and-a-half from their grandmothers house. If you'd like to reprint a post or case summary, please contact us with the name of the requested post/article. but as far as i know.. we dont know if they were kept captives all this time or not. Shes 85 years old and she lives in nearby Shell Rock, Iowa. The FBI knows. The houses were next door. Their is possesive, as in it is their turn. Me too,its 2020 and no investigating? Mystery. Also, would he have knowledge of the area. I cant imagine what their families have gone through with thier disappearance and deaths. Doesnt it seem more likely that these are two separate cases that happen to share some unimportant coincidences than the work of an overly elaborate serial killer? Its very obvious that this horrible tragic event took place because of the heavy drug use and selling of drugs within the families. You sent December 7, 2020 I was watching the ID Channel, and a episode came on about a prisoner named Kevin Sweat from OK state prison. I dont know why but it tends to give be a better perspective of what happened and how. And just what ARE they doing with any DNA they have? Some of this is simple speculation, but I hope you understand why I am drawing some inferences that I draw. Believe me, sometimes the general public knows way more than law enforcement agencies will ever know and to me those people are just as guilty as the killers for keeping that information secret. An unexperienced or young offender would most likely not take that risk. Very sad and heart breaking. Sorry for your loss. They can get his moms DNA, grandmas DNA, and from other relatives. Related: 29 Unsolved Murders That Will Send Shivers Down Your Spine. I lived in Dade county Florida (Miami) for 3 short years back in the 80s where a close relative worked with one of the early drug task forces in the state. Care to mention? My thought is that it was a local man who one of the girls knew. I can pass your name and info to them so they can contact you, since you know the facts. But tried to communicate. July 13, 2012 On the morning of Friday July 13th, 2012, cousins Elizabeth Collins (right) and Lyric Cook-Morrissey (left) were dropped off at their grandmother Wylma Cook's house, which sits along Brovan Boulevard in downtown Evansdalea town in Black Hawk County, Iowa with a population of around 5,000. I am driving to Evansdale to get the house numbers in that block because I cannot figure out his moms name. December 5th. Later that same day, the girls bikes and Elizabeths purse were found near the corner of Meyers Lake. Just have her take you on a tour and talk with her and her family and keep it confidential. I know you surely didnt ask for any of this, If you could turn back time just for 1 min maybe it would change something? Im a 56 year old woman and have been following this case for some time. I pray for someone to comes forward. The FBI eventually joined in the search, sending trained divers to Meyers Lake to search for the girls. You just dont remember it. I happen to be in the Evansdale and Delphi murders connected camp. If they are related, a lot of this occurs in the same families as a learned behavior. - www.CriminalCoffeeCo.com J Bacteriol. How do you know he bought it there? I may just tell her to thank her friend for the docs number, and oh by the way how is she doing. Here are bits of my conversations with XXXXX. If you think someone might be a suspect, contact the authorities rather than putting someones name on public forums. I agree, great post. I would no more attack someone for writing FWIW (instead of For what its worth) than I would someone using the word prolly instead of probably.. I see it was on the news and in the paper back when Fitz just died this spring. Hundreds of volunteers had helped search for the cousins, and the lake near where their bicycles were found had been partially drained. Download the Reward Poster (Courtesy WCF Courier). Both crimes involved the horrific murders of two young girls who were out together alone, and there has been discussion about how the dates of both disappearances are anagrams of each other, with Elizabeth and Lyric vanishing on 7-13-12, and Abby and Libby going missing on 2-13-17. In an interview Wylma gave, she stated the cousins went out to ride their bikes hundreds of times and this time they did not come home. I myself have been sexually abused as a child. Otherwise i dnt understand how no one saw two girls fighting adult/s trying to get them in a car. Both are deceased now, but Chad should be considered a suspect anyway. There (are) just a lot of reports, a lot of information to read through, said Mike Roehrkasse with the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation in both the WHOTV and KWWL reports. Both cases occurred on Earth. The little girls were around the same age as my son. If you analyse any two cases for long enough youll find similarities between them. They all remain in the Evansdale/Independence area. Either it was someone who was naive to the idea that hunters would be in the area and would probably find the girls or it was someone who knew and wanted the girls to be found during hunting season. Shame on you bitch if I ever see you in public I will punch you in the face like you were a dude . Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected. That is the only missing link. or. Secondly, there are commercial satelites that periodically cover the area where the girls bodies were discovered. Drew, if youre out there you and your family are victims too! I wrote this after the girls were found .Dec 2012 Im just uneducated white trash but that dont make me all bad. They were able to confirm a bunch of things that show he wasnt in the Evansdale area at the time. Because the girls were presumably kidnapped in a fairly quiet, isolated area (the lake), I believe they were probably seen either in town, and followed to the abduction site, or someone at the lake happened to see them. But we do keep that in mind, we do check with other states to see if they have anything close and obviously the case in Iowa is probably the closest but we don't even know the cause of death in that one they didn't find the victims until later so it's hard to compare but it is similar. Lyric Cook-Morrissey, 10, and Elizabeth Collins, 8, disappeared on July 13, 2012, while they were riding their bikes in Evansdale. As XXXXX is telling me this story, she burst into tears. I also want to get Early Bird Books newsletter featuring book deals, recommendations, and giveaways. For misappropriation of law enforcement resources. Fourth Memorial Ride & Drive in honor of Lyric and Elizabeth, by Taylor Bailey, KWWL.com reporter, Airdate: July 9, 2016, Volunteers prepare for ride in honor of Lyric and Elizabeth, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, Airdate: July 7, 2016, Vigil Held for 3 Girls, Gone too Soon, by Bevan J. Lucas, KGAN, Airdate: March 12, 2015, Iowa starts year-long process to be CART-certified, by Kristyna Engdahl, KETV.com Abben said there were no other missing persons cases and the remains found were of a smaller stature. I hope they do the right thing. Praying for justice. People jumped on to the idea that it might have been a trucker, but there is a large fence between the park and the interstate. The whole town was looking for her, yet she was already deceased in his attic. At the same time, investigators said Dan and Misty were not considered suspects in the girls disappearance, and were looking into their backgrounds and that of their associates only so as not to discount any possible leads. Maybe call in a physic. centennial high school stabbing; https na1 sabanow net saba web copa learning; chesham to london tube price; peter salisbury leicester mayor; solar buyback plans texas Thank you! If you read about what happened in Delphi, Indiana in February 2017, its hard not to make connections with the Evansdale case. (1) Double homicide involving two abduction/murders of juvenile children is so rare, yet two happen in the same region within a few hours apart (double murder involving two girls is even more rare). Fishermen found Shepards body Friday night, June 7, 2013, in the Des Moines River about 15 to 20 miles downriver from where it runs along Daytons east side. Lyric was older than her little cousin and also very big for her age at 160 pounds. 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