"Tell me." comes at him at once. The funeral games of Patroclus is found on a fragment of a vase by Sophilus (ca. Volume equivalent diameters based on derived ellipsods are: Patroclus: 113km and Menoetius: 104km, while for the combined system, a mean-diameter of 154km is given. In the Iliad, Homer describes a deep and meaningful relationship between Achilles and Patroclus, where Achilles is tender toward Patroclus but callous and arrogant toward others. Patroklos even tells Achilles that he hopes that he himself is never cursed with such anger. He knows that soon, after visitor. In Greek mythology, the story of Patroclus and Achilles started when they were both young boys. The god swings his staffbut he and, claims that her power has saved Achilles, but Achilles scoffs, saying her power cant bring, live after. Achilles, moved, agrees to send Hectors body back. They both spring to their feet in surprise as the guests enter. Patroclus (Earth-616) View source Patroclus Gallery Name Patroclus Aliases Patrocles Affiliation and Relationships Physical Characteristics Origin and Living Status Personal Information Creators and Appearances Creators Roy Thomas, John Buscema First Death Thor Annual #8 ( August, 1979) Thor Annual #8 ( August, 1979) Contents 1 History 1.1 Origin 570 BCE; Athens) on which a crowd is seated on a platform watching the contest. "I swear it," I said, lost in the high color of his cheeks, the flame in his eyes. But I would have the memory be worthy of the man. Do you wish to learn this?". Achilles' strongest interpersonal bond is with Patroclus. Patroklos may be, in a sense, Achilles' alter ego, or "second self," but his error is in believing that he can perform as brilliantly as Achilles on the battlefield. A father, teaching his daughter how to be a slave. Scyros will be conquered soon by a nearby state; you know this as well as I. "My mother told you the rest of the prophecy. Thetis was a lesser of the lesser gods, a sea-nymph only. Discovery Discovered by: A. Kopff: Discovery site: Heidelberg Obs. But Zagreus helps him to look for his memories. He's going to Troy to kill men, not rescue them. His dark eyes held me like swift-running current. Keck Obs. "Coward. Hector then killed Patroclus by stabbing him in the stomach with a spear. It was also a land of rocks. According to his theory, this affection allows for the even deeper tragedy that occurs. The Phthian army doesnt have a leader yet, and Peleus wont lead it himself. PATROCLUS IN GREEK MYTHOLOGY Patroclus was a famous hero amongst the Achaean forces who besieged Troy, and during the Trojan War, Patroclus was a close friend of Achilles. He also requests that when he dies, his bones be mixed with Patroclus' in a vase.[a]. I will have my servants prepare your son's body., Is it right that my father's fame should be diminished? At some point after Zagreus has deepened his relationship with both Patroclus and Achilles as far as possible, Patroclus will instruct Zagreus to tell Achilles to "risk it all". The next day, he burns. "I know," he said quietly, but did not look at me. [a] This was the first discovery of a binary trojan asteroid.[9]. [10] Writers that assumed a pederastic relationship between Achilles and Patroclus, such as Plato and Aeschylus, were then faced with a problem of deciding who must be older and play the role of the erastes. 'glory of the father') may refer to two different individuals: Patroclus, the Thespian son of Heracles and Pyrippe, [1] daughter of King Thespius of Thespiae. It is possible to interact with Patroclus many times without properly learning his name, even if he comes up in conversations with Achilles. This can explain the overtones in Book 19 of the Iliad wherein Achilles mourns Patroclus (lines 315337) in a similar manner used previously by Briseis (lines 287300). For quotes and dialogue regarding Patroclus, please refer to Patroclus/Quotes. Menoetius gave Patroclus to Peleus, Achilles' father, who named Patroclus Achilles' "squire" as Patroclus and Achilles grew up together, and became close friends. In Book IX (lines 225 to 241) the diplomats, Odysseus and Ajax, hear Achilles playing the lyre and singing all alone with Patroclus. knew the trick. Yet I beg you to have mercy. [3] The asteroid's observation arc begins at the discovering Heidelberg Observatory in November 1906, about 3 weeks after its official discovery observation. ", "And you think to steal time from the Fates? You and I both know there is no peace for those who live after., Nothing moves in the tent; time does not seem to pass. Teach your students to analyze literature like LitCharts does. While certain customs must be followed in such relationships, the spirit of the code is of greater importance to these two warriors. Patroclus performs duties such as cooking, feeding, and grooming the horses, yet is older than Achilles. "No one else? After Briseis leaves, Achilles tells, them to speak. Patroclus is also found on Pompeian murals, such as at the Casa degli Amorini Dorati where he is shown together with Achilles and Briseis in Achilles' tent. Is this surprising to you?". The reason we get so much insight about Achilles' looks is because of how in love Pat is with him; we are told how Pat views him because he is the one telling the story. Achilles' Role. [25], Achilles and Patroclus grew up together after Menoitios gave Patroclus to Achilles' father, Peleus. Patroclus and Menoetius are the only objects in the Trojan camp to be named after Greek rather than Trojan characters. Achilles knows its only a matter of time before Agamemnon caves, and. For once I am not afraid. [20] Achilles did not allow the burial of Patroclus' body until the ghost of Patroclus appeared and demanded his burial in order to pass into Hades. We could not talk of much, in those early days, but I did not mind. David Halperin compares Achilles and Patroclus to the traditions of Jonathan and David, and Gilgamesh and Enkidu, which are approximately contemporary with the Iliad's composition. It will not be good enough later," Chiron said. Such a life was a horror. It was my mother's lyre, the one my father had sent as part of my price. In Athens, the relationship was often viewed as being loving and pederastic. I would marry her, and we would have a child. [] Divine blood purified our muddy race, bred heroes from dust and clay. Although one sees Patroklos' strengths and weaknesses (his "aristeia") during his battle scenes, Homer uses him primarily to move the plot along and to highlight the actions and thoughts of other characters. Patroclus is a fictional and mythological character whose story has been interpreted in a variety of ways. He swung out with them both, moving like liquid, like a fish through the waves. She draws down the blanket, releasing me into the air. May I give you some advice? Peleus' line would be assured. gone until she has the baby and until she can name Achilles as the father. It is strange how well she fits there. I could hear his breaths, only a little louder than usual, in the still afternoon air. At these words, It takes him longer than usual, because his dress tangles his legs. No. Madeline Miller really said personality > looks i guess. Achilles is one of the Angeli e Demoni, a prominent member of the Libert Pirates . I listened to every word, imagining it was a story only. If given Nectar, Patroclus will give you the Broken Spearpoint. child will bear his name, and while Achilles hesitates for a moment, he does promise. by Peleus and Peleuss advisor, Phoinix. Perhaps he simply assumed: a bitterness of habit, of boy after boy trained for music and medicine, and unleashed for murder. Maybe Aphrodite forced her. Measured by, This poetic exception to normal Latin stress assignment is allowed when the final syllable starts with a sequence of two consonants, the first a, "JPL Small-Body Database Browser: 617 Patroclus (1906 VY)", "Asteroid (617) Patroclus Proper elements", "Size and Shape from Stellar Occultation Observations of the Double Jupiter Trojan Patroclus and Menoetius", "Asteroid Catalog Using Akari: AKARI/IRC Mid-Infrared Asteroid Survey", "A low density of 0.8gcm-3 for the Trojan binary asteroid 617Patroclus", "Asteroids and comets rotation curves (617) Patroclus", "Photometric colors of the brightest members of the Jupiter L5 Trojan cloud", "Satellites and Companions of Minor Planets", "Trojan Binary Asteroid Patroclus & Menoetius", "NASA announces five Discovery proposals selected for further study". Patroclus is th only binary system of the six target asteroids of the forthcoming NASA Discovery-class mission Lucy.Determining the physical parameters of the system is therefore of primary importance in helping to plan the flyby mission. If an. Achilles and Patroclus met again in the lower world, 20 or, according to others, they continued after their death to live together in the island of Leuce. The affinity gauge is unlocked when Zagreus next finds Patroclus and Achilles together in Elysium. I could imagine the way my father would have said it. I would have you be yourself, not some tyrant remembered for his cruelty.. Friend and lover of Achilles, he was killed by Hector during the Trojan War. Agamemnon watches the girl, grinning. [4], Recent evidence suggests that the objects are icy like comets, rather than rocky like most asteroids. [18]:363 b. His eyes were gray. [16] Notably, in Xenophon's Symposium, the host Kallias and the young pankration victor Autolycos are called erastes and eromenos. One day. In 2006, good measurements of the orbit from the Keck Laser guide star adaptive optics system were reported. What good are you?, I know you are mortal, she says. CliffsNotes study guides are written by real teachers and professors, so no matter what you're studying, CliffsNotes can ease your homework headaches and help you score high on exams. "Swear it.". Do not forget it. Short description: Jupiter trojan asteroid 617 Patroclus; Hubble Space Telescope image composite of Patroclus and its companion Menoetius, taken in 2018. He is not, But he is. Destiny, then, guides Patroklos from the moment he enters the war. says that hes not looking for an answer, just repeating what everyone is already thinking. Aloof, stoic, and don't like to make small talk, he calls Zagreus a "Strange", not wanting to bond with him. As a reward, our divinities offered him a sea-nymph for a wife. [34]:114, Patroclus is a character in William Shakespeare's play Troilus and Cressida. Shay places a strong emphasis on the relationships that soldiers who experience combat together forge, and points out that this kind of loss has in fact often led to "berserking" of soldiers stunned with grief and rage, in a way similar to the raging of Achilles in the Iliad. Achilles' attachment to Patroclus is an archetypal male bond that occurs elsewhere in Greek culture: the mythical Damon and Pythias, the legendary Orestes and Pylades, and the historical Harmodius and Aristogeiton are pairs of comrades who gladly face danger and death for and beside each other.[6]. Memory is all I can hope for. He swallows, thickly. A voice calls for him from a distance. 617 Patroclus; Hubble Space Telescope image composite of Patroclus and its companion Menoetius, taken in 2018. . I asked. Instant downloads of all 1682 LitChart PDFs But how is there glory in taking a life? to go to fight Troyand states that Troy is wealthy and will be seized quickly. [1] It was the second trojan to be discovered and the only member of the Trojan camp named after a Greek figure, as the convention of naming one 'camp' after Greek figures of the Trojan War and the other after Trojan figures had not yet been established. In Greek mythology, as recorded in Homer 's Iliad, [1] Patroclus (pronunciation variable but generally / ptrokls /; Ancient Greek: , romanized : Ptroklos, lit. We sat like that a moment, hands touching. Patroclus dies while fighting the Trojan prince Hector. In Greek mythology, Patroclus (/ptrokls/; Ancient Greek: , romanized:Ptroklos, lit. I dont think he is explained that way he is explained as having darker skin and hair than achilles. [27][28][b] Aeschines asserts that there was no need to explicitly state the relationship as a romantic one,[28] for such "is manifest to such of his hearers as are educated men. for the fame. early to practice with his spears before returning to womanhood. One morning, a guard summons, Deidameia begins crying again, but she asks. Perhaps one day even I will be famous. Returning Hector's body to Priam, I say. 617 Patroclus; Hubble Space Telescope image composite of Patroclus and its companion Menoetius, taken in 2018. His eyes opened. It is a dark D-type asteroidand a slow rotator, due to the 103-hour orbital period of its two components. [15][16] Instead, Phaedrus suggests that Achilles is the eromenos whose reverence of his erastes, Patroclus, was so great that he would be willing to die to avenge him.[16]. So he agreed: I would be exiled, and fostered in another man's kingdom. Eventually, he has. [25] It is suspected that many Jupiter trojans are in fact small planetesimals captured in the Lagrange point of the JupiterSun system during the migration of the giant planets 3.9 billion years ago. He states that another character could have filled the role of confidant for Achilles, and that it was only through Patroclus that we have a worthy reason for Achilles' wrath. My hand closed over his. In the Tholen classification, Patroclus is a dark P-type asteroid. The relationship between Achilles and Patroclus is a key element of the stories associated with the Trojan War. [a][16], According to Ptolemaeus Chennus, Patroclus also became the lover of the sea-god Poseidon, who taught him the art of riding horses. Hey! Answer (1 of 8): First of all, there is no actual proof that Achilles was a historical figure and not a legend or a "fictional" character belonging to the then tradition. .handsome and powerfully built. Of course not.". This annoys Odysseus, and, Later, Clysonymuss family demands exile or death for. That should be remembered. to do with the ashes. Hetaros meant "companion" or "comrade"; in Homer it is usually used of soldiers under the same commander. I picture him with brown curly hair and a lot of fan art that I've seen seem to portray him that way too. It orbits the Sun at a distance of 4.55.9AU once every 11 years and 11 months (4,353 days). This proclamation chills, the next day. Perhaps this is all I do, I think, dementedclimb walls and fall from them. Hooker argues that the greater the love, the greater the loss. says that Achilles cant leave, since Thetis married the two of them. Everyone, even I, had heard the story of Thetis' ravishment. No more. In a surviving fragment of the play, Achilles speaks of "the reverent company" of Patroclus' thighs and how Patroclus was "ungrateful for many kisses. Achilles is the central character in The Iliad, and the story of the Trojan War is largely told with respect to his experience of it. My father had spent his life scrabbling to keep his kingdom, and would not risk losing it over such a son as me, when heirs and the wombs that bore them were so easy to come by. [3] However, this pronunciation is seldom encountered: for metrical convenience, Alexander Pope had made the 'o' long, and thus stressed, in his translation of Homer, following a convention of Greek and Latin verse, and that pronunciation of Latin pa.tr.clus has stuck, for English /p.tro.kls/. In exchange for my weight in gold, they would rear me to manhood. Hes the only thing that. It would not matter to me. Many of the modern surnames in the dictionary can be traced back to Britain and Ireland. When she saw I would not, her face twisted with triumph. That is, Patroklos tries to lead the Achaian attack on the city of Troy, despite the fact that Achilles has warned him not to attempt to do anything except protect the Achaian fleet of ships. After defeating Hector, Achilles drags his corpse by the heels behind his chariot. 617 Patroclus. When yet a boy Patroclus, during a game of dice, involuntarily slew Clysonymus, a son of Amphidamas, and in consequence of this accident Patroclus was taken by his father to Peleus at Phthia, where he was educated together with Achilles.6 He is also mentioned among the suitors of Helen.7 He is said to have taken part in the expedition against Troy on account of his attachment to Achilles.8 On their voyage thither, the Greeks plundered in Mysia the territory of Telephus, but were repelled, and on their flight to their ships they were protected by Patroclus and Achilles.9, During the war against Troy he took an active part in the struggle, until his friend withdrew from the scene of action, when Patroclus followed his example.10 But when the Greeks were hard pressed, and many of their heroes were wounded, he begged Achilles to allow him to put on his [Achilles'] armor, and with his men to hasten to the assistance of the Greeks.11 Achilles granted the request, and Patroclus succeeded in driving back the Trojans and extinguishing the fire which was raging among the ships.12 He slew many enemies, and thrice made an assault upon the walls, of Troy;13 but on a sudden he was struck by Apollo, and became senseless. Patroclus Name Meaning Historically, surnames evolved as a way to sort people into groups - by occupation, place of origin, clan affiliation, patronage, parentage, adoption, and even physical characteristics (like red hair). dais: theyre for Achilles, Thetis, and Peleus. Achilles: Patroclus was Achilles' lover in the mortal realm. At dawn, Achilles goes to tell Thetis what hes decided. [2] However, in 2001 it was discovered to be a binary asteroid of two similarly sized objects. Theres one bed for AchillesChiron apparently doesnt need one. I am making excuses. He is known now only because of how his story touches yours. Phaedrus argues that Aeschylus erred in claiming Achilles was the erastes because Achilles was more beautiful and youthful than Patroclus (characteristics of the eromenos) as well as more noble and skilled in battle (characteristics of the erastes). I grew to understand her expressions first, the thoughtful quiet of her eyes, the flickering smiles she would hide behind her hand. Greek text available from the same website, Online version at the Perseus Digital Library, Greek text available at the Perseus Digital Library, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patroclus_(mythology)&oldid=1129794609, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles containing Ancient Greek (to 1453)-language text, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 27 December 2022, at 04:28. Our land was one of grass and wheat. Jump to navigation Jump to search. The god plays his hand, instilling Hector, the Trojan forces leader, with temporary cowardice so that he retreats toward the City. . And this goddess brought a greater promise still: the Fates had foretold that her son would far surpass his father. Patroklos makes no speeches in the Iliad. If he backed down now, it would be a dishonor. Let the stories of him be something more. "Who trained you?" All the Greek armys mules and dogs die. During his childhood, Patroclus had killed another child in anger over a game. Achilles forged a contract with Hades so that Patroclus could reside in Elysium, erasing any foreseeable chance of being Together in Death with Patroclus, with those intentions. You can use a spear as a walking stick, but that will not change its nature., The words drove breath from me, left me stuttering. This is how Pyrrhus tomb might look. 617 Patroclus; Hubble Space Telescope image composite of Patroclus and its companion Menoetius, taken in 2018. Ledbetter believes this puts Patroclus into a subordinate role to that of Achilles. So you think she did it on purpose? And half-moron besides, I hear. Patroclus' affinity gauge is maxed out at 8 hearts, requiring 6 Nectar and 2 Ambrosia. They never even mention her anymore., Her safety for my honor. He can occasionally be found by Zagreus, brooding in his monotonously hellish paradise. ", She slapped me. At best, you will be like Lycomedes here, moldering on a forgotten island with only daughters to succeed him. If you had not gone to Zeus, he would be alive!, He is a mortal, she says. In the camp, one of Menelauss heralds greets them; Menelaus couldnt come in person. Patroclus is said to have killed a child, and to avoid the consequences of his actions, his father, Menoetius, sent him to Achilles' father, Peleus. A prince and heir to the city-state of Troy, Hector serves to be the foil of Achilles. He insists on killing Hector himself, though he. He lifted an eyebrow. The soldiers say that theyre upset at how long its been, and, night, the plague begins. Its king, Peleus, was one of those men whom the gods love: not divine himself, but clever, brave, handsome, and excelling all his peers in piety. As if it were dark figures on an urn he spoke of instead of men [] I learned to sleep through the day so that I would not be tired when he returned; he always needed to talk then, to tell me down to the last detail about the faces and the wounds and the movements of men. "Yet it is not beyond you to be a competent soldier. Done. He grinned. Even though Patroklos is an important character in the Iliad, Homer gives little attention to him until the ninth book, and even then, the focus is not on Patroklos himself, but on his relationship to Achilles. It is one of five Jovian asteroids targeted by the Lucyspace probe, and is scheduled for a flyby in 2033. bookmarked pages associated with this title. The words scrabbled from my mouth. A few years after his birth, Patroclus' father went to war with King Peleus of Phthia - and died in battle. The sound was pure and sweet as water, bright as lemons. Achilles will eventually tell Zagreus to alter his contract; with the help of Nyx, Zagreus will find it in the Administrative Chamber, and he can then spend 5 to modify it. I was so small; I was rumored to be simple. And Patroclus laid him down on the opposite side, and by him in like manner lay fair-girdled Iphis, whom goodly Achilles had given him when he took steep Scyrus, the city of Enyeus. Pyrrhus doesnt believe Briseis. The skin stung, and my lip throbbed sharply where she had caught it with a ring. [18]:474 b.23 l. 6971 Patroclus was then cremated on a funeral pyre, which was covered in the hair of his sorrowful companions. 458-477), which showed the life-sized figures of Achilles and Patroclus.23 He appears in art as a warrior, usually with a beard, such as on the Attic vase of Sosias (ca. he has dark hair bc when achilles is putting his armor on patroclus the wording is like and finally, the helmet to cover my dark hair. During his childhood, Patroclus had killed another child in anger over a game. [29], This minor planet was named after the legendary Greek hero Patroclus. Her desire was ambitious. The only other reference i can recall is after Patroclus' death, when Achilles sees the locks of hair and realises it's him. He was just waiting for an excuse. Some men gain glory after they die, while others fade. 21 On Cape Sigeum in Troas, where his tomb was shown, he was worshiped as a hero. He is heartbroken, effectively tearing the two apart with no chance of bringing them together. ", He made a sound almost like a laugh. 'glory of the father') was a childhood friend, close wartime companion, and the presumed (by some later ancient sources) lover of Achilles . Shocked, Agamemnon says that his counselorsOdysseus and Diomedesdidnt mention this. 16 l. 804822, Achilles retrieved his body, which had been stripped of armor by Hector and protected on the battlefield by Menelaus and Ajax. LitCharts Teacher Editions. [1], In 2001, it was discovered that Patroclus is a binary system, made up of two components with of roughly similar size. She places each cold word as a tile in a mosaic. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. What is admired in one generation is abhorred in another. He spread his broad hands. Aeschines, in placing an emphasis on the importance of paiderasteia to the Greeks, argues that though Homer does not state it explicitly, educated people should be able to read between the lines: "Although (Homer) speaks in many places of Patroclus and Achilles, he hides their love and avoids giving a name to their friendship, thinking that the exceeding greatness of their affection is manifest to such of his hearers as are educated men. I considered. Medieval Christian writers deliberately suppressed the homoerotic nuances of the figure.[23]. I felt in a trance. This was more of the gods than I had ever seen in my life. [34]:112 Dowden also notes the common occurrence of such relationships as a form of initiation. "Whatever you became. 16 l. 6487 Patroclus defied Achilles' order and pursued the Trojans back to the gates of Troy. Others stand at the base to look at the scenes of his life carved on the stone. I do not understand it! Patroklos makes no speeches in the Iliad. Struggling with distance learning? What else can she do to me? [8] Xenophon cites other examples of legendary comrades, such as Orestes and Pylades, who were renowned for their joint achievements rather than any erotic relationship. I left you too long on Pelion. "[17] Most ancient writers (among the most influential Aeschylus, Plutarch, Theocritus, Martial and Lucian)[18] followed the thinking laid out by Aeschines. However, I can't recall reading anything in the book that would indicate that he looks that way. Patroclus orbits the sun every 4,340 days (11.88 years), coming as close as 4.48 AU and reaching as far as 5.94 AU from the sun. In our day, death was preferable. All the while, beloved wife, whose family lives in a coastal kingdom, Cilicia. Because Patroclus stepped up and took over Achilles position, dying for Achilles revealed the true hero in Patroclus. From the creators of SparkNotes, something better. She cups my face in her hands. The name was proposed by Austrian astronomer Johann Palisa. Teachers and parents! I will crack their uncrackable city, and capture Helen, the precious gold yolk within. "My students can't get enough of your charts and their results have gone through the roof." The stones are like dark waters that flow ceaselessly over something I have dropped, that I want back. He looked up, his beautiful face framed by the gold of his hair. [21][22], Commentators from the Classical period interpreted the relationship through the lens of their own cultures. [25] Achilles' decision to spend his days in his tent with Patroclus is seen by Ulysses and many other Greeks as the chief reason for anxiety about Troy.[26]. The gods had led Peleus to the secret place where she liked to sit upon the beach. Physical characteristics; Dimensions: 127 . Achilles tells. And I wanted to be able to listen, to digest the bloody images, to paint them flat and unremarkable onto the vase of posterity. However, Alexander Pope shifted the stress to the first 'o', /ptrokls/,[7] a convention allowed in Latin poetry,[30] for metrical convenience in his verse translation of Homer, and this irregular pronunciation has become established in English. There was a peace in sitting beside her, the waves rolling companionably over our feet. Do not be a fool. him, a great honor. He leaned forward in his chair. One day, Thetis asks to meet, One night, Peleus is telling Achilles and, That morning, the news of Achilles departure spreads quickly, and, Achilless new mentor, Chiron, appears; hes half-human, half-horse, which startles, lyres. After ten years shut up in Sparta, I'd want to leave too., Maybe they'll bring her back with them., I think so too. From Chiron, Peleus said, handing it to his son. Patroclus dislikes bloodshed. Agamemnon comes to return Briseis, not realizing that she already came to see, clean the corpse. They're like having in-class notes for every discussion!, This is absolutely THE best teacher resource I have ever purchased. "I would not care," I said. I had not been struck like this since I was a child. Tainted by a commoner?, Patroclus was no commoner. Without thinking. It was previously known by the provisional designation S/2001 (617) 1. He is a strong warrior, a powerful sorcerer, a loyal friend, and a fantastic healer. Nothing but death. Appearance and Personality of Achilles He was said to be supremely handsome and had supernatural strength. gold in the sun, his body suddenly larger. I loved it when he was like this. Odysseus hopes that one tent is enough, since hes heard that Achilles and, the other hand, will gain the most glory if he kills him. On 21 October 2013, both bodies occulted a magnitude 8.8 star as observed by a team of 41 observers stationed across the USA. Are you sure you want to remove #bookConfirmation# But Odysseus' voice was relentless. [12] Homer also references Menoetius as the individual who gave Patroclus to Peleus. We have no idea what's going on in that dummy blonde boy's head. She used to be known as the most beautiful woman in our kingdoms. Maybe. I was wondering if the book ever describes Patroclus physically? The film Troy presented Patroclus as a younger relative of Achilles, without any romantic or sexual aspects. The original text plus a side-by-side modern translation of. 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