And it was like, Viola read it, and it ended up on the floor of her truck with footprints on it, because she would embrace these things; she was, "Alright I own it," and it wasshe wasn't attached to those kinds of things. And he was harmlessgot caught selling weed in the wrong time. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, and when you need it, like Duchamp said, if art is a drug and you need your fix, NEIL WILLIAMS: I mean, Van Gogh said that, art is a jealous mistress; she doesshe prefers herself to ill health or anything else. Elder Neil L. Andersen of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles speaks during the campus devotional in the Marriott Center on the BYU campus in Provo, Utah, on Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2023. MIJA RIEDEL: Did he write much about her work? NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, and people from all over the world, which was really fascinating to me, because we were all on the same, kind ofunexploredit was new territory. Net Worth in 2020. NEIL WILLIAMS: Because if I get frustrated working, or if I getit's not going right, that piece isn't going to happen, especially at critical points. [Laughs.]. There were built-in walls together with pieces of plastic. And Ralph Bacerra was there because he was Michael's instructor. It's incredible!" NEIL WILLIAMS: So hopefully it's more complimentary and more an essential aspect than it is interruptions or profound experiences that change, evolve or de-evolve the work, or the intent and quality of the work, soif that answers that. And there's a frenzy in some of thecertainly the bricoleur pieces and the paintings, there is an energy, a density, a frenzy, NEIL WILLIAMS: It's awell, we always kind of laughed a little. R&S takes all care in the preparation of information appearing on the site, but accepts no responsibility nor warrants the accuracy of the information displayed. Did I understand you say that? Media. She didn't encourage me to stop and nix it and do something else andbut very encouraging and learned a lot about keeping the work alive and interesting, NEIL WILLIAMS: and a part of which was making mistakes, NEIL WILLIAMS: accepting those mistakes, and, MIJA RIEDEL: Now, you graduated with a BFA in '81, and I can't tell from the CV if it's ceramics or a general craft. MIJA RIEDEL: her focus, and the life that comes into her eyes and comes into her movement in the studio, and at the same time, just that practiced routine. NEIL WILLIAMS: So there is a key, there is a keyhole shape between them, especially in the black that was real important. National Geographic? MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. Washington, DC 20001, 300 Park Avenue South Suite 300 NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh yes. MIJA RIEDEL: So cutting a vessel in half, cutting a section out of it. Students gather in the Marriott Center in Provo, Utah, for the weekly devotional featuring Elder Neil L. Andersen of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles on Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2023. Like fooling people in that way, deceptively deft. Neil Williams. Itfear of boredom. MIJA RIEDEL: What do you see as the similarities and the differences between your earliest work and your current work? They were magnificent pieces. And, I would get up and I would go out and leave my keys sitting on the table, that kind of stuff. And I've been really fortunate. It's like the sameto me, it has a direct link to the chemical in our hearts that cause it, our cells to beat. NEIL WILLIAMS: A few photos to get in, but, you know, and then they were lettingand then when I was there, they weren't screening their graduate programs very heavily, but. NEIL WILLIAMS: [Laughs.] NEIL WILLIAMS: But it was something that seemed natural, and I felt comfortable just to finish her sentences, or, if I knew what she was about and she got hung up on aor if shebecause she would ask, "What do you think?" You have to give it all, and then you have to immediately let go of it. So, it's a painting in the round, and thenlike I said earlierit was five years to get the front side, another five years to work on the back side, and still working on all the transitional sides. NEIL WILLIAMS: I'm more inspired by just knowing that what I'm doing is right and okay. NEIL WILLIAMS: You know, of course, whatever happened after that, whethershe wasn't going to be responsible for it. NEIL WILLIAMS: Right. NEIL WILLIAMS: And show sheand I knew there was something extremely special, and I didn't have an art background. You do not stay attached to it." NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh yes, and they had been for quite some time before that. How do they survive and make a living? H\@y P]% 1qt&b> B@/|&k~]JtwnvihavopS)\>rvq|6zL6?IUGw{)s\{9~7?^O|uFfhm0%$*6zM*. So, looking back, it's been refreshing, so, thank you. [Affirmative.] NEIL WILLIAMS: On to visuals. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: So, there is athere was comfort in the image. Sowas it somehow familiar to you? Gosh. MIJA RIEDEL: She had a wonderful reputation. The approach to it or the action of it, there's a cleaner feel to it. It was a wonderful food, but it was also a wonderful fuel, because I wanted more. I think thatfor me, when she started doing the larger works and the color fields, I didn't feel the emotional connection that she had with them before. NEIL WILLIAMS: Spent some time even with Thiebaud on some workshops. [Laughs.]. ", Mike Etheridge - Associate Creative Director, "Neil Williams is a talented Head of Copy. MIJA RIEDEL: So, youbecame her assistant fairly quickly. So, an earthquake happened a couple months later. . So, it's a terrible burden, I think, in a way, to bear. I'm thinking of a story that someone told [me MR]something happened to Charles and he was in the hospital, and, MIJA RIEDEL: a couple of friends came over to visit Viola, and they said there was just no conversation, nobody was talking. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. MIJA RIEDEL: Some people said that Charles was gay. NEIL WILLIAMS: And she thought in theIthe process of that was personalizing the image. 566 Following. Her mother was a dancer and used to tour with Arthur Murray in that era. It's just like their studies. But he knew that. MIJA RIEDEL: And what would you bring to those classes? He says, "It's going to work.". He was very interested in the music and the arts. NEIL WILLIAMS: And I heard, 40 years ago, so you got to find something to do in life that you're not going to get bored with. 0000005828 00000 n NEIL WILLIAMS: I think it goes back to, is it a fuel for life or not? So there's a certainalso, which clay, I think, brings aboutthere's a certain naturalness, and there's a certain human quality that it's a natural conductor for. NEIL WILLIAMS: Normally, I tend to edit, I think, tonot that I'm"PC" is my, you know, my forerunning concern in life, but I try and be respectful and not hurt anyone's feelings. NEIL WILLIAMS: in order to take in to battle, in the field of painting and sculpture. He's still an amazing guy, same sense of humor. And thenstarted to cut straight-line. MR], cup or teapot shows. And for some reason, that mix with Charles worked. Two times a week for five years, they were there every week. Some of the last charcoal drawings I thought were justoh my God. Three days a week? NEIL WILLIAMS: It was Neil William's Galleries. NEIL WILLIAMS: It was the proverbial eye image. "Well here, let me send you something." NEIL WILLIAMS: A lot of it being nurtured ironically by the local high school art faculty department. NEIL WILLIAMS: It'sI don't know if I'm stubborn or fool hearty or whatever it is, but it's staying alive and interesting to meor for me. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, I mentioned some artists that I was still in touch with. Unless you have a collector or someone who is a friend that says, lookI mean, like Stphane Janssen, what he did just floored me. NEIL WILLIAMS: That says very well. NEIL WILLIAMS: She might not want to have admitted it, you know. But he says, "Find that one small thing to look forward to every day." Another five years go by, and the mortality rate gets down to less than one percent over a 20-year period. NEIL WILLIAMS:off the deep end, if Iyou know I used tothere was a period it was like I'd look and I'd see what other people were doing and the attention and the accolades and thesome other peopleand the independence and the ability that they had to explore because they could afford to then. MIJA RIEDEL: Now, this definitely has that fetish finish feeling to it. And I knowI remember also that it was funny because they knew how magnificent she was and how much, I mean, Manuel wanted to trade with her and shethey knew there was something really, really special there. I mean, I always think of that wonderful Gauguin painting, Tahitian women on the beach." It could work with you or you could work against it. The brothers both weighed between 10st and 11st whereas Neil was on the small side. It's likewhat was that Dali said, not that these are masterpieces in any way, I would never try and equate myself with any great artists like that, but "No masterpiece was ever made by a lazy artist." Copyright in all R&S materials is owned by Racing and Sports Pty Ltd (R&S). But I hope there's somethere's always, to me, some areas that need work. So that was one of those round-about stories. It's overwhelming. And, her pieces were getting larger and larger and larger because, sectionally, we could handle it. @pacer142. And I also think it's getting better and better, little small, like I said it's been five years. Have your sources of inspiration changed over time. Elder Neil L. Andersen of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles speaks during the campus devotional in the Marriott Center on the BYU campus in Provo, Utah, on Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2023. NEIL WILLIAMS: He would write stuffI mean, I'd find little notes all over the place, little critiques about, you know. You might want to pet her first.". For continued life, and exploration, and questioning, and celebration. One artist was talking about art in the panel; she was talking about, "Art is about art" and was being very egocentric. MIJA RIEDEL: How extraordinary. Certainly the painting's gotten more confident on it. I mean, I learned sopalace-and-cottage artist. NEIL WILLIAMS: And all the way down, like here. That was very wise of her. Access to the entire audio recording is restricted. NEIL WILLIAMS: Uh-huh. Neil Williams Obituary: In the loving memory of Neil Williams, we are saddened to inform you that Neil Williams, a beloved and loyal friend, has passed away. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. And, like I say, thrown, but I get them off the wheel as soon as possible to reshape and rework them. MIJA RIEDEL: [ -MR] Garth Clark suggested that the plates were a way that she worked with masslet me read this exact quote: "Volume just appeared in the junk pieces, volume retreats before mass, and as mass increases, volume diminishes in most of the work." It's like another great thing I learned that I certainly borrowed from biology, talked about clay and mark making, and how making marks in clay, you're starting to develop your own vocabulary by doing that. tt@D-b`Rph1Vic 3cC6OH.{LF@s2ldhcxll\ApJ&:L|+3|gggjGc54Dh3f ?Z' I noticed he was very accomplished and peaceful. MIJA RIEDEL: and intended to be a kind of threshold? There's a directness, a quickness to it. MIJA RIEDEL: You went along on those trips? Elder Neil L. Andersen of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and his wife, Sister Kathy Andersen, leave the arena after speaking during the weekly BYU campus devotional on Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2023. MIJA RIEDEL: Right. Milking the cows MIJA RIEDEL: if not, how would you characterize it? MIJA RIEDEL: making things happen that wouldn't happen elsewhere. MIJA RIEDEL: All right. Some of them reminded me of Hieronymus Bosch for some reason. Like, certainly Betty AsherAsher Faure and then in L.A, and then Rena. Because I had been back up here, but I would go back to help. MIJA RIEDEL: So when did you graduate high school? Neal Currey likes to say adventure is in his blood. NEIL WILLIAMS: And if you look at so many aspects of ceramics and pottery, it's extremely important in every culture. "But I'm not dead yet. And someone else said, "It's 90 percent labor and 10 percent magic." So that's whatyou know, you stay in complete embrace with it, you make something, paint something, you spill your soul to it, whatever it takes, and then you have to let go. Those kinds of things you want toyou knowwho do you turn to say, "This is not fair." Father was completely emotionally detached. She actually kind of stalked it, but. NEIL WILLIAMS: and then she had electric kilns at home. And he said, "A museum down there wants an installation." NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. MIJA RIEDEL: There are a couple of columns, vase columns that we looked at that were, what, 12 feet tall, MIJA RIEDEL: from the late '90's. NEIL WILLIAMS: Then I ended up more so reading more recently in the last ten years, I don't knowfascinations with otherworldly things, unexplained things, unexplained phenomenons, UFOs or undiscovered species or missing people, missing time, interesting mysteries. She would just clutch, and she'd have a connection with it, and once it got in her hands, it wasn't leaving. NEIL WILLIAMS: So I think that's why I made so many bowls. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, first, my high school art teacher, Mario [Ferrante]. I mean they're. I mean, it would have been great, but it's not important to me. I never saw anything she was doing was morose. NEIL WILLIAMS: There's a very heartwarming story about her, about her vulnerability, too. It's like Ken Ferguson at Kansas City Art Institute was talking aboutone of his lectures washe said, "I always encourage my students to find your"I'm paraphrasing "find your level of skill, go to that level of skill, and then back off about 10 percent, and work in that area because you get the maximum amount in a healthy space without imploding," so to speak. Is there any relationship between your production work and your one-of-a-kind pieces? NEIL WILLIAMS: I mean, they were together a long, long time. He didn't,change the""He didn't"you know, that simple, pretty simple. I've always known it's good. MIJA RIEDEL: to a more color-filled, abstract painting, and how that came about. And he's trying to pull the plate away, and she's growling at him, and she's got her arms around the doughnut and it's likeI said, "Oh Charles, I don't know", [END OF TRACK william14_1of3_sd_track01. So, it's a good fit so far. BA (Law) degree University of Durban-Westville (Now University of Kwa-Zulu Natal), LLB degree (Post graduate) - University of Durban-Westville, LLM (Labour Law) degree - University of South Africa, Admitted attorney of the High Court of South Africa 1993, Admitted advocate of the High Court of South Africa 1996, Re-admitted attorney of the High Court of South Africa 1998, Appointed part-time CCMA Commissioner - 2014, Senior State Advocate Office for Serious Economic Offences (1996) & Asset Forfeiture Unit (2001), Head of Legal Services City of Tshwane (2005) and City of Johannesburg Property Company (2006), Head of the Cartels Unit Competition Commission of South Africa 2008. But, Rena was a lifeline and an essential part of, I think, why Viola was able toshe really helped Viola blossom. I didn't feel her thrillshe was feeling that thrill about them. Some people here say, when they see them, "Oh, it's a little mad hatter's teapot." That's all I have to say." Jointly published by the Deseret News and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, its content supports the doctrines, principles and practices of the Church. I mean, we're stuck in these ephemeral bodies, and we're just renting them, and people need to have comfort zones, or they need to have zones of, "Okay, this is where I belong. Jointly published by the Deseret News and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, its content supports the doctrines, principles and practices of the Church. New York , NY 10010, Washington, D.C. Headquarters and Research Center. And she said, "I was all prepared to be depressed, and you know what we did with depressionmilk if for all its worth." So, I don't really think about, like, proper gallery representation or anything like that anymore. Yeah, thank you. NEIL WILLIAMS: But in looking back, Ithere was a period of time I was fortunate enough to work near herassist herthatit seemed to be a click and across the board. Manuel Neri? NEIL WILLIAMS: Old and whole family, she's going to come out and she's going to talk on stage. And so she encouraged surface which, so the early ones, were very textual, very tactile. I've met some artists that are pretty bitter over that stuff. My memory is a bit hazy bit i recall going to warwick farm one day. ], NEIL WILLIAMS: But it's at the right time and slowing down, enjoying the experience. The interview took place in at Williams' home and studio in Auburn, CA, and was conducted by Mija Riedel for the Archives of American Art, Smithsonian Institution. NEIL WILLIAMS: Remember him? Yeah. And she says, "I hope some of my students show up. As an ambulance rushed him to the hospital, something unexpected happened. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh yes, it was a draw for her. I don't do a lot of reading now, butoh, yeah, a lot of writers. NEIL WILLIAMS: when I wasand I saw them asalmost like roommates and artists who were sharing space and enriching each others' lives. And then you practice. MIJA RIEDEL: Or a challenge, because it brings the work into a different perspective. In that way. About a year later, he met Kathy Williams. NEIL WILLIAMS: wasn't as finished, and it seemed driven by a need and a compulsion to keepto keep working, to keep building, to keep itkeep it big andso, I don't know if that helps answer that question. [Affirmative.] And then they'll bump somebody out and it's like, what happened to that person? And I was like, "Oh my God.". NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, isn't thatI mean, isn't thatcommon with all of us? And I always thought a good writer, just like a good painting or sculpture, should take you on a journey. That kind of thing? Required fields are marked *. NEIL WILLIAMS: Someone else installed it. And of course after that it was everywhere, and everyone wanted to tag around and see what she doing and, NEIL WILLIAMS: get into her studio. Even though it may have been obscured, she hadshe wanted to tellbe able to tell stories with her work and with herI always thought it wasshe was asking more questions than she was answering in her storytelling, which is what I think is what good art should do. [Laughs. But no, it was worth it. Dorothy was wonderful. NEIL WILLIAMS: And it makes thethere's a certain way it it makes the work cleaner in a way. You're just mocking me, Viola.". NEIL WILLIAMS: Similarities was a consistency of all figure workfigurative work, the male and female roles. MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. The Church News is an official publication of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. NEIL WILLIAMS: And we all have our angels but, you know, Viola had hers. 0000004977 00000 n My father was a county exec to the Board of Supervisors for Placer County. What Are We? Like, "Viola, it's really great, it's really beautiful, but if you did this, we'd save me a couple hours of work here." It fulfilledspiritually, it fulfilled self-respect. Was there a syllabus of any sort? MIJA RIEDEL: Did youand that that was part of that whole dynamic and part of what made it unusual? But he did it elsewhere. So, that could bea metaphor for such. A Professional theme for architects, construction and interior designers MIJA RIEDEL: I'm thinking of something that Rena said last week, which wasshe saidsomething that Viola said to her. NEIL WILLIAMS: and afterwards, she didn't pursue that. NEIL WILLIAMS: And then I would worktry and work on my own or have energy to do my own work. They were work, but it was the idea of making a column that washad a little figurative feel to it. They should pick you up and transport you elsewhere. longest barstool employees; nchsaa track and Any follow-up thoughts from the conversation last night? Moving on to your career, was Viola encouraging about your career? NEIL WILLIAMS: But also I think there's a great sense of humor and a take on things that's pretty broad-based. "Ah, that makes sense to me. So, he filled the word in her life, and she filled the visuals in his. MIJA RIEDEL: Oh, no. NEIL WILLIAMS: And what was the last word he said when he sat up? And, hearing quotes echo in my mind, or replaying experiences help bolster my feeling of solidity, and it helpsironically it helps control the working process. I never saw a sign of that. I had never seen anything like it, or since. 0000116531 00000 n He has the rare ability able to look at any project from a broad perspective and solve the problems that need solving, while always retaining an infectious passion for steering creative work of the highest standard. She deserved it. And she said, "That was a little more bold than some of the others." That was interestingthat was, I forget the writertalked about perception, conception, and practice. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. University systems, they certainly have their place. Racing and Sports is a Registered Trademark. MIJA RIEDEL: The degree to which the cup and the teapot were deconstructed in the life and the energy, the sheer sort of whirling dervish quality they had was extraordinary. there's an administration aspect to orchestrating all of that. Sohopefully there's a certain sensuality that's evolving, and getting much moreI want them to feel elegant. NEIL WILLIAMS: I haven't had a lot of ugly. And then he called one day and said, "Neil, I'm opening a little small gallery in Carefree, outside of Scottsdale. Before they went to just color field, and more of a wash water color block of areas of color. But if you get someone who can talk aboutlike I talk about my student survival and celebration, you know putting yourself in a space, what do you need to identify, what do you need to survive, physically and make ends meet, pay the bills, keep the utilities on. MIJA RIEDEL: Right. 0000053116 00000 n NEIL WILLIAMS: And completely supportive, 110 percent. You'll be redirected to related page soon Don't have an account? NEIL WILLIAMS: Absolutely, American artist. It just didn't really go anywhere. We'll pause there, because this card's about to end. I think about little quotes and stuff all the time about, you know, some from Charles or some from other artists orthey stick with me. NEIL WILLIAMS: from Arts and Crafts, art school days, I gravitated back here. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. NEIL WILLIAMS: I never doubted that. We thought he was going to have a stroke. NEIL WILLIAMS: And then she unfortunately passed away pretty young, years ago. He's got an incredible history, and he certainly deserves more attention for his work and for being a great professor of ceramics. But it was also another sign of how vulnerable she was, I think. She was intoxicated by color and form, like one of theas any good art junkie could be. Well, there is an amazing history in this gold rush area of inventive people taking off and. It was a public and a private. It was serious and hard work, but she said, "There's no reason why we can't have fun." But, as far as thinking about deep, life-altering subjects, questions about the universe and how we fit into it or not, I mean, there was some heavy hitters back then. NEIL WILLIAMS: Depends on the instructor. And he would get some just fantastic readers to come in. And he washe had a creative streak, so he said something about, 'I have some clay, and why don't you work with this?" I thought his move to the Gold Coast was based on Your testimony grows as you try to look for God and for our Savior in your everyday life, in the little things., Jada Brown shared her love for a painting titled Hand in Hand which depicts a little girl walking hand in hand with the Savior. Net Worth in 2019. But the lack of detail in thatthe simplicity of it just being this eruption of massive form and color, right in your face. MIJA RIEDEL: And was this was when you were already working as her assistant? Fun, she loves celebrating life, and always likes to have fun and pushes me to do things and get out of my comfort zone that I wouldn't normally do. That's the hardest part. Elder Andersen referenced the talk given by Elder Jeffrey R. Holland of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and Sister Patricia Holland a week ago during the Worldwide Devotional for Young Adults about hope. Curved line, you've got figurative and intuition and emotion. I was going to go to graduate school and she said, "Well, you can work for me." You know, that kind of a thing. ], NEIL WILLIAMS: "might want toshe looks awful mean. And they're still not quite, know why, but there's an electrochemical in the cells of the heart which causes it to beat. It's just, you say, "All right, let's make it workable or manageable," and you find those small golden moments in the course of a day or an experience with someone thatit's like my brother, one of my brothers was a real talented guy. John Q Public (c Proud Citizen) Winner at 2, US$106,770, 2d Kentucky Downs Juvenile S., L, 3d Belmont Paradise Creek S., L, 4th Saratoga Special S., Gr.2. 0000013392 00000 n NEIL WILLIAMS: And there was stuff that got taken out of the backyard and just dumped up there that I hadn't worked with. I just have a couple final questions in summary, and then any final thoughts you might have are more than welcome. And, I also found it was really interesting because they werethey found themselves into collections of paintings and other paintings and sculptors that I really like, too. I would relish the opportunity of working with Neil in the future. Some cookies are placed by third party services that appear on our pages. He said, "I always considered these, or conceived these as individual." I would say, "Yeah, all right Viola. MR] the work feel like a long thread of continuity, a long series of theme and variation? I have to carve away certain layers as it dries, so it holds its shape and its form, and doesn't collapse. MIJA RIEDEL: How about the female figures? And she could work so long, and then the next morning, it was like she was right back into it. He says that, "Volume has gone to her paintings, and the plates were the bridge." MIJA RIEDEL: '77, from Auburn High School. It's like Viola would say, "Look down the street, it's just if you took away all the trees there would be no harmony." NEIL WILLIAMS: Art critic writers, I don't know, they didn't reallythey lose me after a while. But then again, I've heard there's some real idiots who have landed those positions, and have hung onto them. NEIL WILLIAMS: Like I said, she was very asexual, NEIL WILLIAMS: like he was, too. Which year? And she was talking about it and trying to talk about samples of other students' work and Viola had a realshe was veryfragmented in her approach toand like I said, and I'll say again, at her memorial service, I said, "If we""If I don't"the first thing I had to say, "If I can't get through this, or I speak in incomplete sentences, it's because Viola did, too, and we used to love to fill infinish each other's sentences, and fill in the blanks." And, I'm still stuck in that, that mode. Two steps up, one step back, three steps sideways. Remember, there is a power that can cause those things to happen that need to happen, and that power comes from your faith in Jesus Christ., As an Apostle of the Lord, Elder Andersen blessed students to feel the Saviors hands reaching out as they reach out to Him. Well, started off with stencils and brush, and then it went to some of the molds and even some thick-lined Egyptian paste she would make, which would melt and fuse onto it. I've known them first-hand. And I was able toevery good piece I've made since I was 14 I've sold. I get that." It's getting harder and harder to find the energy, when you have the time, to make quality work. And it's something that, if you were able tohowever they needed to work through it, who knows what could have come from them? Talking about Marquez and. 0000114555 00000 n NEIL WILLIAMS: Loughlin, Noel. Two hours, I'd be in the ocean, two hours I'd be in the mountains, in the Redwoods, and two hours in being in one of the most beautiful cities in the world, in San Francisco. So, bringing positive energy and being a resource, because technically I know that in ceramics and ceramics history, I can, I mean, I can reproduce any piece I wanted to. Andbut he was a mad cobbler because he was a shoeleather and shoe smith, and we'd call him the mad cobbler. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. 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